[daisy] E-mail rendering

[Karel Vervaeke]

That could work, if you find a good way to interact with mhonarc...

Reading in the html-snippets from mhonarc should be no problem using
cocoon pipelines to read the html snippets from mhonarc (or just link
directly to the Mhonarc server (in which case you will have to think
about security: direct Mhonarc links will bypass the ACL), but
I'm unsure how you will deliver the original mails to Mhonarc, you would
need to investigate that.

Don't forget to think about attachments...

Karel

On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 21:15 +0200, Antal Koós wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I think it could be a way:
> 
> storing:
> MUA ---- ( via clipboard/script/macro) ---> into Daisy in a single
> file attachment ( maybe the header extracted)
> 
> viewing:
> selecting the msg document in Daisy ---> invoking "mhonarc -single msg
> > msg.html"  (www.mhonarc.org)
> 
> ... just a crazy idea :-)
> 
> 
> Best regards,
>           Antal Koós
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 17:44, Karel Vervaeke <karel at outerthought.org> wrote:
> > Hi again ;-)
> >
> > Yes, perhaps my previous mail was a bit negative.  There is no reason
> > not to use Daisy as a DMS if you properly plan for it (taking the
> > limitations of Daisy and the amount of work that you are willing to
> > spend into account).
> >
> > So here's my constructive feedback (Yes, it I am doing a 180° here, sue
> > me ;-)
> >
> > - Java libraries exist for processing mails
> > - Think about your document model: Are your attachments separate
> > documents that are linked to the mail (parent-linked or child-linked?)
> > or do you have one document which contains the mail (in the first case
> > you will need an extension for creating the document (splitting up the
> > mail etc, in the last case you will need an extension for viewing the
> > attachments).
> > - Intergration with mail-client: as you indicated yourself: it will be
> > cumbersome (and possibly error-prone) to open the email source and
> > copy-paste into Daisy - If you have control about the mail client you
> > could create a script (lotus notes?) or extension (thunderbird) or macro
> > (outlook) to automate the process.
> >
> > When I said 'nontrivial' earlier I mostly meant: you are going to need
> > to do a considerable amount of work - find out beforehand how motivated
> > you are ;-)
> >
> > And when I said:
> > > I strongly suggest you research other solutions.
> > I should have said '... you *also* research other solutions' ;-)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Karel
> >
> > On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 16:48 +0200, Antal Koós wrote:
> >> Hi Karel,
> >>
> >> You make me sad:-)
> >> I 've used a good proprietary  DMS  for ten years. I think Daisy is
> >> not so bad for DMS too.
> >> There is a market niche.
> >> Anyway I intended to store mails not automatically, not en masse and
> >> not only mails.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>    Antal Koós
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 13:38, Karel Vervaeke <karel at outerthought.org> wrote:
> >> > Keep in mind that Daisy is not a document management system or an
> >> > archive tool.
> >> >
> >> > If you only want to archive emails, I would certainly not reccomend
> >> > Daisy - there must be better solutions (although I know none which are
> >> > free (speech or beer))
> >> >
> >> > That being said, there is nothing in Daisy to import and render emails,
> >> > you would have to implement this yourself - which will be a highly
> >> > nontrivial task (e.g. what about attachments? - you will almost
> >> > certainly need to write an extension for something like that).
> >> >
> >> > I strongly suggest you research other solutions.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Karel
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 13:11 +0200, Antal Koós wrote:
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> I'd like to use Daisy as an enterprise document registration system.
> >> >> Important e-mails must be archived. It can be done manually via
> >> >> clipboard using "Message Source" (in Thunderbird), "Show original "(in
> >> >> Gmail)., etc.
> >> >> But how could I render it  into a readable form and be able to detach
> >> >> attachments?
> >> >> Do you now a solution, idea?
> >> >>
> >> >> Best regards,
> >> >>      Antal Koós
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