[daisy] [skin2] Poll for participation and input

[Marc Portier]

Kealy, John wrote:
> I've set up a daisy account on the cms at coocoondev.org. Account
> jkealy. May I have edit access in the wiki?
> 

sure, just changed your default role, enjoy...

> In all possible humility can I make a suggestion? Can we make it easier
> for people to get access to the wiki? Can anyone with a confirmed
> account get access instead of having to request edit access? I think it
> would help in building a community, since many folks like me are
> hesitant to post to a listserv, especially when we are newbies in a
> community...
> 

John,

No need to be humble, I understand your position, but we're mainly 
keeping to this strategy to make sure we're not flooded with spam here

So, while I was looking up your account I just made a random grab of the 
self-registered login accounts we've seen lately:

id    | login
------+------------------------
531   | http://tsoa.info <a href="http://tsoa.info">a</a>
529   | Hi! NOT SPAM! It is new gogle adsene. http://purse
470   | [[xo]]TakenByTheOne&&Only[[ox]]

somehow I'm glad those didn't get write access "just like that"...


> I'm looking at opening up a technical support wiki based on daisy to
> ~30,000 people within the next few months, so this is a topic where I
> intend to lead by example...
> 

wow, sounds mighty cool!


-marc=

> Cheers,
> 
> JK
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: daisy-bounces at lists.cocoondev.org
> [mailto:daisy-bounces at lists.cocoondev.org] On Behalf Of Marc Portier
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 2:17 AM
> To: open source CMS - general mailinglist
> Subject: Re: [daisy] [skin2] Poll for participation and input
> 
> 
> 
> Kealy, John wrote:
>> I've spent quite a few days up to my eyeballs in the current skinning 
>> system so I'd like to help if I can. As I come from primarily a site 
>> builder/HTML designer background I found the documentation of the XSLT
> 
>> variables used in the skin a bit deficient. Either that or I missed 
>> the documentation entirely which would be bad too!
>>
>> I also think some kind of gallery of skins and some sort of way of 
>> sharing skins would be very helpful to build up the daisy "ecosystem".
>> Seeing an easy way to put an entirely new face on a site would 
>> certainly make more people and organizations interested in daisy.
>>
>> Pardon me if I get a little meta here. It seems to me that Outerthough
> 
>> is the core and heart of the Daisy ecosystem at this point. This will 
>> always be true. However it also seems to me that there is little 
>> community outside of that core. I think there are a number of other 
>> dedicated developers out there now who are more application developers
> 
>> than developers of the core CMS.  A skin library and some application 
>> libraries might be a way to begin to expand beyond the Outerthought 
>> core.
>>
> 
> I agree, but have to stress that all of the above is 'hindsight
> observation' rather then 'planned future'.
> 
> Allowing myself some meta as well: Things happen as they happen by the
> ones that make it happen :-)
> 
> So, if the 'ecosystem' and groups of 'more application developers' want
> to have a bigger hand in this, then they should be just getting those
> hands dirty he :-)
> 
> Anyway, I do agree that this skinning area lends itself a lot more then
> e.g. the query language for broader participation...
> 
>> Again, maybe there is someplace for developers like me to participate 
>> and to upload code and skins to share, but I haven't yet discovered it
> 
>> or been invited to participate. We've got some excellent folks here 
>> doing very interesting stuff, maybe it's time to let them show the 
>> world what they are up to.
>>
> 
> Indeed.
> 
> 
> John, and others, if the invitation in my original posting wasn't clear,
> here is another one:
> 
> http://cocoondev.org/wiki/521-cd.html
> 
> I just created the blank slate doc and section (created docs of type
> 'Community Wiki Document' that have their category point to 'Skinning
> Daisy' will show up under that section) to grab the residu of further
> discussions on this topic.
> 
> Next step (if discussions get to the point were materialization becomes
> natural) I suppose we could be opening the svn/contrib section to
> collaborate on the actual skin.
> 
> People wanting to contribute on the wiki should follow the steps
> described here:
> http://cocoondev.org/wiki/210-cd.html
> 
> 
> regards,
> -marc=
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