[daisy] [skin2] Poll for participation and input

[Kealy, John]

I've set up a daisy account on the cms at coocoondev.org. Account
jkealy. May I have edit access in the wiki?

In all possible humility can I make a suggestion? Can we make it easier
for people to get access to the wiki? Can anyone with a confirmed
account get access instead of having to request edit access? I think it
would help in building a community, since many folks like me are
hesitant to post to a listserv, especially when we are newbies in a
community...

I'm looking at opening up a technical support wiki based on daisy to
~30,000 people within the next few months, so this is a topic where I
intend to lead by example...

Cheers,

JK

-----Original Message-----
From: daisy-bounces at lists.cocoondev.org
[mailto:daisy-bounces at lists.cocoondev.org] On Behalf Of Marc Portier
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 2:17 AM
To: open source CMS - general mailinglist
Subject: Re: [daisy] [skin2] Poll for participation and input



Kealy, John wrote:
> I've spent quite a few days up to my eyeballs in the current skinning 
> system so I'd like to help if I can. As I come from primarily a site 
> builder/HTML designer background I found the documentation of the XSLT

> variables used in the skin a bit deficient. Either that or I missed 
> the documentation entirely which would be bad too!
> 
> I also think some kind of gallery of skins and some sort of way of 
> sharing skins would be very helpful to build up the daisy "ecosystem".
> Seeing an easy way to put an entirely new face on a site would 
> certainly make more people and organizations interested in daisy.
> 
> Pardon me if I get a little meta here. It seems to me that Outerthough

> is the core and heart of the Daisy ecosystem at this point. This will 
> always be true. However it also seems to me that there is little 
> community outside of that core. I think there are a number of other 
> dedicated developers out there now who are more application developers

> than developers of the core CMS.  A skin library and some application 
> libraries might be a way to begin to expand beyond the Outerthought 
> core.
> 

I agree, but have to stress that all of the above is 'hindsight
observation' rather then 'planned future'.

Allowing myself some meta as well: Things happen as they happen by the
ones that make it happen :-)

So, if the 'ecosystem' and groups of 'more application developers' want
to have a bigger hand in this, then they should be just getting those
hands dirty he :-)

Anyway, I do agree that this skinning area lends itself a lot more then
e.g. the query language for broader participation...

> Again, maybe there is someplace for developers like me to participate 
> and to upload code and skins to share, but I haven't yet discovered it

> or been invited to participate. We've got some excellent folks here 
> doing very interesting stuff, maybe it's time to let them show the 
> world what they are up to.
> 

Indeed.


John, and others, if the invitation in my original posting wasn't clear,
here is another one:

http://cocoondev.org/wiki/521-cd.html

I just created the blank slate doc and section (created docs of type
'Community Wiki Document' that have their category point to 'Skinning
Daisy' will show up under that section) to grab the residu of further
discussions on this topic.

Next step (if discussions get to the point were materialization becomes
natural) I suppose we could be opening the svn/contrib section to
collaborate on the actual skin.

People wanting to contribute on the wiki should follow the steps
described here:
http://cocoondev.org/wiki/210-cd.html


regards,
-marc=
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