[daisy] regarding the DB2 issues -- @Aaron

Steven Noels stevenn at outerthought.org
Mon Jan 22 06:26:04 CST 2007


On 22 Jan 2007, at 12:59, David Goodenough wrote:

> On Monday 22 January 2007 11:34, Steven Noels wrote:

>> I'm very much open to any kind of debate about how we could resolve
>> this situation, and whether we are erroneously doing MySQL-specific
>> stuff. We don't have the resources however to continuously develop
>> and test Daisy against other databases than MySQL at the moment.
>> Committing your patch won't change that.

> Well that is a shame.  I was building a system around Daisy and
> Postgresql, but in light of your statement I will have to reconsider.

In the light that no-one forced you to take a look at Daisy, I'll  
wisely ignore the flamebait. ;)

> Being Database agnostic is rather like being web browser agnostic.   
> You
> can take the view that the majority of your users can be satisfied by
> using one particular flavour, but you leave yourself open to the kind
> of problem that is now hitting those who relied on IE6 specifics and
> are finding that IE7 had taken rather more notice of the standards
> and suddenly their web apps stop working (or at least stop doing what
> was expected of them).
>
> It is a shame that there is no equivalent of the w3c HTML checker for
> SQL (or at least none that I have come across) which would obviously
> make a developers life much easier.  However there are a number of
> people out here who can test what you produce against other DBs, and
> that will catch most of the problems and produce a more future proof
> product.  It does seem a shame not to take advantage of this.

David, I don't see where I state that we won't support other  
databases. Quite the contrary.

I see myself stating that cross-the-board support of relevant  
databases is a worthy goal, however we should address that  
comprehensively. Sending in a big patch again 1.5 and expecting us to  
take that patch and port it to trunk isn't exactly "comprehensive" in  
my book.

My mail was a honest and friendly plea for patience and smaller, more  
regular contributions. Otherwise, Daisy will trample on its own feet  
from code-rot and half-finished features. *That* would be a real  
disservice for Daisy's users, no?

</Steven>
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Outerthought                              Open Source Java & XML
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